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Aalysia Valkeiper
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.22 20:25:00 -
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I go to college under scholarship.
I got into the Lan club (basically the college's online-gaming club) and introduced them to it by actually playing some at a meeting.
The administration chose to test to see if it was a worthy idea to sponsor a corp. 17 other players opened trial accounts to join my own and test EvE. They all played the trials heavily the entire two weeks and worked as a team most of the time.
The college offered to pay for the subscriptions for the entire group a full year.
I am the ONLY player in EvE right now (none of the others took up the college on that offer). When asked why, the others said EvE was NOT friendly to new players.
So, yeah, people know I play EvE and wonder why.
My subscription expires this November. I will be playing other games after then. |
Aalysia Valkeiper
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2014.07.28 01:54:00 -
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Commander A9 wrote:
Dude! What school do you go to!? :P
It's a technical college in Waco, Tx.
Yeah, I said a technial college.
They teach such things as Game design, computer programming, network security (which I'm about to graduate from), digital forensics (ditto for this, too), automotive engineering, and a bunch of other fields.
The college considers online gaming as an important aspect. Another sudent informed me EvE online is now being presented as an example of how NOT to operate an MMORPG to the game design department.
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Aalysia Valkeiper
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2014.07.28 02:13:00 -
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Emiko Rowna wrote:Aalysia Valkeiper wrote:I go to college under scholarship.
I got into the Lan club (basically the college's online-gaming club) and introduced them to it by actually playing some at a meeting.
The administration chose to test to see if it was a worthy idea to sponsor a corp. 17 other players opened trial accounts to join my own and test EvE. They all played the trials heavily the entire two weeks and worked as a team most of the time.
The college offered to pay for the subscriptions for the entire group a full year.
I am the ONLY player in EvE right now (none of the others took up the college on that offer). When asked why, the others said EvE was NOT friendly to new players.
The college did the same thing with WoT (World of Tanks) and the clan in that game is going great and getting better.
So, yeah, people know I play EvE and wonder why.
My subscription expires this November. I will be playing other games after then. Can I have your stuff? 
You're kidding, right?
I have almost 200 ships and over 4 billion isk. I earned it in just about a year and a half. You will have to earn it, too.
I was a solo miner and a lone manufactor.
I tried to play in corps, but they just did not understand I do not PvP... even after I tell them before joining. They could not understand why someone would collect every sub-capitol (battleship and below) of all four empires (plus an Orca, Retreiver, Machinaw, and Gnosis for each of those fleets), but not want to fight. |
Aalysia Valkeiper
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
68
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Posted - 2014.07.28 14:34:00 -
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Care to elaborate on why? [/quote]
That test ended before December of last year, but the results and the reason for the results still are true.
1> Experianced players are allowed to prey on new players with impunity (this is how the victims see it). Whether true or not, most players do not enjoy being ganked before they even know how to play a game, especially if they are operating vessels they are not allowed to arm. Most new players perceive this as just being 'fresh meat' for established players.
That perception extends to the tendency to wardec new corps, especially corps desiring non-pvp operations like mining and industry. Such actions shut down any desire to delve into that part of the game as well.
2> EvE online is virtually forcing players to team up just for survival. Sometimes, even the most team-oriented player desires a relaxed solo experiance. EvE discourages such a playstyle and is getting closer to punishing 'solo operations'. This is again how the new player sees it. True or not, this perception governs whether the new player will want to continue playing the game.
3> while complexity is a large draw for many players, sometimes a players wishes a more... relaxed... experiance. EvE offers little in this frame and It seems CCP is actively trying to discourage such desires. Whether this is true is irrelevent when the new player thinks the game simply can't be played if and when he wishes only to relax.
In the year since the test, I have stated all these problems several times on the forum. Each time I was ignored by CCP and usually I was flamed by other players whose playstyles meshed fully with CCP's vision.
As I have stated many times, whether the perception is true or not is irrelevent. If a new player perceives he is not welcome in a game (except as a target for more established players), he is unlikely to continue playing that game. |
Aalysia Valkeiper
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
68
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Posted - 2014.07.28 14:40:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Aalysia Valkeiper wrote:
The college considers online gaming as an important aspect. Another sudent informed me EvE online is now being presented as an example of how NOT to operate an MMORPG to the game design department.
Seems unlikely Unless he wants to fail
She just graduated from "Game Design" with a 3.6 GPA.
She had a job lined up before she graduated and in now settled out of state in her new job.
Note her job is with an online gaming company. |
Aalysia Valkeiper
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
68
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Posted - 2014.07.29 18:54:00 -
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Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:
So before then go around giving away your 200 ships and surprising people.
Sounds like a pretty cool college to pay for subs.
Yes, It is. I thought it is excellent that the college goes out of its way to introduce students to the industries they'll be in when they graduate. That is why the college supports online gaming like it does.
The college offers to pay for the subscriptions, it doesn't make the students subscribe. It DOES have students go thru the trial accounts.
The game design tech department has 5 classes each semester with at least 15 students per class subscribing to test accounts or trial accounts of many online games. If a student likes playing a game, the college pays for a 'paid account' and the student is required to evaluate the game regularly for grading.
It has been a year since the test by the Lan club. I think it is quite telling that EvE online is on the list of 'required testing' for the game design technology (trial accounts), but no students have decided to play the game for actual grading (subscription accounts paid by the college).
Something's got to be said when a game can not intice players interested in the industry to play the game, even when those players don't have to pay for it. |
Aalysia Valkeiper
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
68
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Posted - 2014.07.30 04:47:00 -
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This thread s a pretty good indicator that something is wrong with the entry level of EvE.
I consider the tutorials amoung the best I've seen, but what happens after going thru the tutorials is convincing new players to quit.
If this thread is any indication, Being known for playing EvE is not exactly a favorable idea in the working enviornment.
I guess this is not a problem to CCP, though I'd like to know why.
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